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China vs the West ep 14: When Do You End Your Workday? 996 in ChinaHave you ever thought about when you usually wrap up your workday? Or when you have your last meeting?Recently, I picked up a packaged drink from a convenience store in Shanghai. The packaging featured a slogan aimed at young professionals: “6点没会,快乐加倍” (No more meetings after 6pm, double happiness for the day). It got me thinking about the cultural differences in work schedules.In many Western companies, meetings typically end by 5pm. For instance, at Amazon, the default scheduling view shows availability between 9am and 5pm. However, in China, it's not uncommon to have meetings well into the evening. A friend who used to work for Tencent, the tech giant behind WeChat and some of the world's best-selling games, mentioned that his team frequently scheduled meetings between 7-8pm.“What about dinner?” I asked.“We have dinner around 6, then return to the office,” he replied.If you're not familiar with the term "996," it's crucial to understand it to grasp the work culture in many Chinese firms. "996" stands for working from 9am to 9pm, six days a week. As a gesture of support, some companies provide dinner for their employees and even offer taxi subsidies for those leaving the office after 10pm.So, next time you're in Beijing or Shanghai and see a fleet of taxis outside the headquarters of a major company like Alibaba at 10pm, you’ll know why. It's when the hardworking employees finally head home to rest.Understanding these cultural nuances can help bridge the gap in our increasingly globalized work environment. How does your work schedule compare?

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Interesting - though I remember in Shanghai in 2010, my colleagues (mostly environmental engineers) would leave promptly at 5pm, and not want to 加班. whereas in London people would tend to stay a bit later and be more flexible. Do you think the 996 is more a phenomena in tech and business services in China, or does it seep into other industries?

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Time to change the work culture and you can be the first one to start, then you can see the effect 😁 Steven

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    China vs the West ep.13: Baby Bust vs Baby BoomA recent article titled “Suddenly There Aren’t Enough Babies. The Whole World is Alarmed.” by The Wall Street Journal highlighted the surprising decline in birth rates worldwide. With many countries struggling to maintain replacement rates, it's possible that the global population may begin to decline earlier than expected. Asia, excluding India, is particularly affected, with South Korea leading the way in low fertility rates.China's population decline has been a topic of interest, and the world notices the country's shift from being the most populous nation to India this year. I discovered two new insights today, by the infographics where we not only look at China’s fertility rates across years, but to compare it against other developing countries like India and Mexico. Insight 1️⃣: Since 1980, one policy might have brought China’s fertility rates from 5 (Mexico and Indian’s rates) to 3 (China’s actuals). If that were the case, China might not lift out of poverty as quickly as we have seen. One child policy worked to the favor of economic miracle because we allow scarce resources to be allocated more concentratedly.Insight 2️⃣: China's fertility rate has experienced two sharp declines, both unique to the country's circ*mstances. The first decline occurred after 1989, coinciding with the Tian'anmen Square event, which had a profound impact on Chinese parents-to-be and their perceptions of the country's future. The second decline in population, around 2019, was influenced by a combination of factors, including the political climate, rising housing prices, and socioeconomic changes among young people, particularly women, regarding marriage and childbirth.It is essential to note that countries that have experienced decline in population have not succeeded in reversing the trends. As the global population continues to decline, it raises questions about the potential existential threat to human civilization. Will population growth become as significant an event as climate change and AI in terms of its impact on the future of humanity?"Source: Wall Street Journal

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    11 years ago, I was part of Kellogg GCBC organizing committee. This year, I’m honored to be invited to speak about my observations and experiences in China business. Looking forward to an intellectual discussion on one of the most important powers in 21st century!

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